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Thursday, July 02, 2009

溝通之必要

 

溝通之必要

前言:

你可能笑我太天真太傻,但我依然相信哈伯馬斯的溝通行動理論 (theory of communicative action)。

以下,我將順時序一字不漏的引錄近日和HKBlog的對話內容。(如果你仍然未知道發生了什麼事情,請先看
http://tommyjonk.xanga.com/705897481/shame-on-hkblog/

另外,兩點聲明:

1) 請原諒我使用了極其破爛的英語(如有任何錯誤,煩請蕭sir等高手不吝更正!)
2) 本文之用意是利用HKBlog跟鄙人溝通過程作為示例,故不得不引用原文。如果
HKBlog的朋友不希望對話內容被公開,煩請告知。

第一篇(可能是範本)

Hi tommyjonk,

Thanks for contacting us about your post. I think there was a
misunderstanding about your blog. We have several xangans that allow us to
feature any post from their site. I think your account was mistakenly added
to that list.

We're very sorry for this huge error. We have removed your post from the
hkblog and will let all our editors know it isn't ok to feature your posts
without your prior agreement.

Sorry again,

Iris@HKBlogTeam

Posted 6/30/2009 3:10 AM

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我的回覆

Dear Iris,

Thanks for your quick response and the action you have done. However, I still want to let you know why I am so angry.

In fact I don't mind HKBlog put me into such a "list", but i think even I am in the list, I still expect that the editors will inform me in advance.

It is not an issue of respect, but protection: to protect both the contributors and editors. At least, It can avoid the editors wrongly post the unfinished version to the public.

If you want to reduce the workload, you can learn from what appledaily and mingpao worked with me before -- you just put the contributors' name and show the link on the site.

As we all knew, to run a website is never a easy job --- how to find a cheap and stable contributor, how to balance different voices, how to manage the editors.
Either one of the above can kill the webmasters.

However, no matter how hard the job is, the webmaster has to put an eye on the bottom line, in both moral and legal side.

For example, you have to make sure the source of article is reliable. You have to check correctness of the information. And most importantly, You have to set up a sound system of choosing and editing the articles.

THE REPUTATION OF A MEDIA IS ALWAYS VALUABLE. Please treasure what your team have achieved.

Yours sincerely,

Tommy Chow

P.S. I don't think "delete post" is kind of apology. Please consider a public anouncement about this issue instead. You can nake use of this great chance to tell all of the local xangans there is a "list" and how to join the "list"-- so xangan, please keep your good work and you will get reward.

What a prefect PR case study!

Sent 6/30/2009 4:21 AM

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第一篇(明顯不只是範本)

hi tommyjonk,

Thanks so much for your suggestions and for your understanding.

Our intention was never to anger you, your are one of our best contributors. We're currently working on communication improvements to the HK blog and will inform writers if their posts have been selected to be featured on the HKblog.
As far as the syndicated tab, this is a feature that is by invite only, for the best writers on xanga. We hope you'd still like to be a part of this but if not we understand.

Sorry once again, and thank you.

Iris@hkblogteam

  • Posted 6/30/2009 5:27 AM
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另一條名為
RE: Xanga HKBlog would like to feature your posts!的訊息

hi tommyjonk,

As you have posted on your xanga blog quite often, we would like to know if we can feature your posts in xanga hkblog [hk.xanga.com] whenever our editors see a good post from your site.

You will receive a message from hkblog if any post has been chosen.

We are looking forward to hear from you.

Regards,
HKBlogTeam
Posted 6/30/2009 10:48 AM

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我的回覆


Dear HKBlogTeam,

Thanks for your invitation. It is my pleasure.

Please feel free to contact me when you think my words are useful.

Best wishes,
Tommyjonk
Sent 6/30/2009 12:08 PM

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最後一次對話

Thank you for your reply!

Regards,
HKBlogTeam
Posted 6/30/2009 10:46 PM

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後話:

1) 據了解,我的朋友們,包括Kursk,好像陸陸續續的收到來自HKBlog的書面邀請。

2) 不少人對HKBlog依然存有不少負面想法,他們的投訴甚至包括讀者素質,但正如我當初堅持在xanga落戶的想法一樣,「我不入地獄,誰入地獄?」。因此,我願意為HKBlog提供稿件,甚至提出更多意見,大前提是他們必須尊重所有作者和讀者。

3) 建議HKBlog可效法主流傳媒搞些讀者回饙會議,如果資源許可的話。



延伸閱讀:

公共領域中理性溝通的可能性

有關Jürgen Habermas

http://www.cas.sc.edu/socy/faculty/deflem/habermasonline/Habermas1.htm

http://www.helsinki.fi/~amkauppi/hablinks.html



其他勝家人對香港勝家的意見


史兄:奇怪的 HKBlog
(含大量粗口,慎入)

maple-autumn:Xanga HK Blog is non-sense

Exist2:A Message from hkblog teamA Message From hkblog (2)

Hystericireul:港博



 Posted 7/2/2009 10:39 PM - 225 Views - 14 eProps - 10 comments

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Visit adrianlu1026's Xanga Site!
one of our best contributors.<====被強姦完還多謝你奉獻身體,我笑了。
Posted 7/2/2009 11:57 PM by adrianlu1026 - reply

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@adrianlu1026 - 

很貼切的比喻
Posted 7/3/2009 1:04 AM by silly_cecile - reply

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@adrianlu1026 - 

看到這個比喻,也想不到會有比這個更好了。

只能說hkblog的思考模式會引發起更大的網絡爭論:「放得上網就預左比全世界睇啦!」
這個爭論可能又會再次在hkblog爆發了。
Posted 7/3/2009 1:37 AM by pineapplesam - reply

Visit hystericireul's Xanga Site!
I received no messages from hkblog......

I sent them message privately before when they used my articles without notifications, but I did not post a weblog entry.

What makes the f-king difference?
Posted 7/3/2009 7:49 AM by hystericireul Xanga True Member - reply

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@adrianlu1026 - 

呢個比喻真係一流.
Posted 7/3/2009 8:27 AM by relgitsjg - reply

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@adrianlu1026 - 軍妓都叫慰安婦啦。

Posted 7/3/2009 10:29 AM by fongyun Xanga True Member - reply

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我不太明白 Tommy Sir 用這個實例來表達/傳遞甚麼訊息。要溝通? :-O 


A字人,你係得Ge!  


Posted 7/3/2009 11:44 AM by Frostig Xanga True Member - reply

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@adrianlu1026 - 其實不只,還要「強姦完之後,告訴你『你是不少跟我發生關係的人當中最「正」的人之一。』」!  


@pineapplesam - 這個跟「女性穿著性感一點去夜街就預左被人『博懞』甚至強姦」真有異曲同工之妙啊!!!  


Posted 7/3/2009 11:49 AM by Frostig Xanga True Member - reply

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P.S. 喜歡 one-night stand 或者做性工作者都可以揀對象啦!揀地點都可以 Gwa?我願意文章放在自己的 site 被全世界看不代表你可以拿去給全世界看...囉!  


Posted 7/3/2009 11:53 AM by Frostig Xanga True Member - reply

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@adrianlu1026 - 


@relgitsjg - 


@fongyun - 


@silly_cecile - 


@pineapplesam - 


我覺得「強姦」的比喻近年來用得太濫了。政府強姦民意、鹿霸強姦網民、振聰強姦視線......我的示例,明明是盜竊,強什麼姦??? 用不著次次控訴也要「加大力度」吧!!!


作為一個教中文的人,對於這種浮誇的文風,實在有點吃不消...(A仔,不是針對您喔)


@Frostig - 對,我希望「港搏」人可以真的「廣博」一點,多點和受眾溝通...至於是否應該與虎謀皮的問題,我依然深信不入虎穴的說法。

Posted 7/4/2009 8:14 AM by tommyjonk Xanga True Member - reply


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